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Jothindra

of

Mysore

Mr. Darryl,
 
I think the rule that any ball pitched outside the leg stump-in an one day match- being declared a "wide" is absolutely silly.  A "wide" is in the traditional sense a ball which is not in the reach of the batsmen. But I am shocked to see even those balls which are very much in the reach of the batsmen being declared a "wide".  This amounts to being biased towards the bowler.  So, does that mean that the bowler has to forego bowling on one side of the wicket totally?  It also means this silly rule deprives a bowler of being at his craftiest and most creative best. Share your thoughts on this.
 
                               
Hello Jothindra

Yes...this playing condition is biased against the bowler

and yes...the bowler must forego bowling on one side of the wicket totally.

But your suggestion would be a disaster.

What sort of game would we have if the bowler was able to deliver six balls every over down the leg side, maybe three feet outside the line of the leg stump?

Oh dear! Think about it. Wouldn't doing that be crafty and creative? In 50 overs, a team may score 70 or 80 runs and probably not lose any wickets.

The 20 and 50 over games are tailored for batsmen, run scoring and action. That's why they are very popular forms of the game. The  bowlers can still be crafty and creative using swing, seam, change of pace, spin or no spin.

   

Daryl,

This happened in a match that I was watching:

Here's a commentary snapshot from Cricinfo:

13.3 Amarnath to Nayar, 5 runs, comes round the wicket this time, he places it to backward point and Badrinath has a shy at the stumps, the ball hits the sweet spot of Bravo's bat and races away to third man for four over throws

As a fan of the bowling team, I was a bit peeved that the batting team team were awarded the four runs as overthrows. I did think that the umpire ought to have spoken to the batsman before awarding / 'de-awarding' the runs - as you have so rightly done when you spoke to the Pakistan batsman while you were officiating (I am referring to your response to Rishi's question in Cricump).

Guess, who the umpire was in this case?

http://content-www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/335989.html
 
Regards,
Mahesh

Hi Mahesh

The umpires are the judges of fair and unfair play…so I know what you are talking about.

And yes…I was one of the umpires, but not at the bowler’s end in the incident that you note. If I had been at the bowler’s end, I would have awarded the extra runs as well.

I recalled the incident at Dambulla when I did confer with the batsmen about extra runs, and they agreed that it wasn’t right to be awarded those runs. But ICC confirmed soon after that I shouldn’t apply my interpretation in a game, while somewhere else, another umpire awards the runs. We are talking about ensuring consistency across the world.

 

But I would still rather see the ball declared dead in such a situation. Maybe that change will be promoted after an important Twenty20 match is determined by such a deflection.

There is a greater likelihood of deflections and overthrows in this format, with fielders frequently flinging the ball at the stumps.

Sadly, it often takes a dramatic incident to create change.

 

Rishi Banerjee 

of

Singapore

 

 

 

 

Hi Daryl

Interesting note first up: I met you in Perth a few years ago in an elevator in the hotel! Doubt you remember, but I was with my family at the time and I remember my mum asking if you were watching the cricket the next day. You answered that you were actually officiating in the game! [She explained later that she didn't recognize you without your hat]

 

My first question is about run-outs. I remember a run-out involving the Indian left-hander Dinesh Mongia a while ago. He had made a diving attempt to get into his ground, his bat had slid partially IN along the ground but, just as the ball collided with the stumps, his bat had popped into the air again. He was given out after referral and this decision puzzled me a little owing to the fact that his bat had already been in the crease before the ball hit the stumps. Does this mean that, even if a batsman is well-past the stumps, he can be given out (say if both of his feet are in the air while running)? The batsman could be a good 10 metres past the crease recovering from a quick single (with his bat in the air because he is already well in) and be given out?

 

The second question has to do with something that happened in a school cricket game of mine. When an opposing team-mate was grounding his bat, his bat got in the way of a fielder's attempt to hit the stumps. The ball ricocheted off his bat and went into no-man's land, and the batsmen proceeded to take three more runs. Some people in my team think that it was against the rules of the game to keep running after the bat has caused the overthrow.. others think that it is just cricket etiquette not to run and that the batsmen can choose whether or not they take advantage of the opportunity. Is there an actual rule regarding this?

 

Thanks for your time. If I meet you in an elevator again one day I'll be sure to let you know!

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Rishi...

Two very good questions are asked here and both arouse lots of emotion and passionate discussion.

Dinesh had attempted to make good his ground but had not quite achieved it with total control. Perhaps it's like a baseballer sliding into second or third base and not retaining touch with the base. He can be put out by a player with the ball touching him when he is off the base even momentarily. Dinesh may have made his ground but he then is deemed to have left his ground and not for the purpose of protecting himself. If he was avoiding being hit by the ball, then he would have been ruled as not out.

Now we go controversial.

If a player passes the stumps and jumps in the air to celebrate a century or is just pumped up with his effort, he should be given out if the stumps are disturbed when he is off the ground. It's bizarre...I know. That's the interpretation from those who are entrusted with the laws of this great game.

Thankfully...cricket is umpired by people who have steady heads and are clear thinking enough to say to themselves.."What? I'm not giving anyone out like that! That would be madness! It's just not cricket."

I don't know of anyone who has been dismissed in this manner.

The written law must eventually catch up with reality.

 

In the school game, the batsmen were within their rights to take extra runs but in international cricket, it is considered bad form. It is entirely up to the batsmen at the time. Sometimes the other batsman doesn't see the circumstances as he is running the other way at the time of the throw and deflection.. He may call his partner through and demand that he run.

As an umpire, I am in a no win situation if the deflection runs all the way to the boundary. I am compelled to signal the boundary four and usually hold an open hand to the scorers indicating five runs were scored in total.

In an ODI, I once asked a Pakistan batsman if he wanted the extra boundary after a deflection from his bat and he confirmed that he didn't expect them. I called a dead ball and only allowed the original signal. I was severely criticised by a colleague but my point was simple. The batsmen were not going to run after the deflection. Why should the runs be forced upon them because a boundary had been crossed?

For me...it is all about etiquette and the spirit of the game.

Please give my regards to your mum. Tell her I'm still not wearing my hat in the lift!

Jayanth of Bangalore

Jayanth has a straightforward question about lbws.

This query is about LBW's. Say the ball pitches and hits me in line and the height is okay too. I have my bat behind my pads. So, the ball would have gone on and hit my bat, not the stumps directly. Am I still out?

 

Hello Jayanth
Absolutely...out. The bat only concerns the umpire if it makes contact with the ball before it first touches pad or body or any other part of the batsman apart from the hand holding the bat.
Now get your bat out and play some shots.
Best wishes
Daryl

 
Prasenjit, somewhere in U.S.A.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prasenjit wonders what happens when overs are not bowled in a Test match

In the Kolkata test some overs were lost but only part of it was made up the next day?

What exactly are the rules?  Why can the overs not be made up entirely?

 

 

On the first day only 83.3 overs were bowled out of a minimum target of 90 overs. Under any system, the over in progress is always completed the next day. But we left the field at 4.24p.m. which was six minutes earlier than the scheduled close at 4.30p.m. Under ICC. Test Playing Conditions, we must try to make up lost time so we began the second day at 9.24a.m.to cover those six minutes. The time is converted into overs with one over for each four minutes or part thereof. Six minutes means two overs, so on the second day, the minimum overs to be bowled was 92 overs...90 plus the extra two. 

Just to keep going now that I'm on a roll, when India began batting today, 52 overs remained to be bowled. If South Africa had completed that tally at the required rate of four minutes/over, they would have needed to bowl until 4.54p.m.or 24 minutes after the scheduled close. This was never going to happen with sunset expected at approximately 4.28p.m.

This situation comes about because teams are allowed two minutes/wicket taken and four minutes for each drinks break, meaning that a normal day's play may finish thirty minutes late with the side bowling their required overs on time after allowances are considered.

 Today South Africa had only bowled 38.4 overs when the batsmen accepted the offer of bad light at 4.23p.m. On the third day, we'll start seven minutes early and plan to bowl 92 overs for the day. Therefore another eleven overs are effectively lost to the game from day two.

If we had left the field after 4.30p.m.on either day, we would commence on time the next morning and not make up any overs at all. We are also limited to only playing for thirty minutes of overtime at the end of a day in order to complete the required number of overs.

In better light conditions today, South Africa would have continued to bowl until 5p.m. and then be required to complete the over in progress at that time. They would not have bowled the missing 13.2 overs in 37 minutes so any overs not bowled at 5p.m. would have been lost.


Now I hope that I haven't confused you, but the new conditions (from 1 October 2004) do seem to be easier to interpret than previous conditions relating to Law 16.

I hope my explanation assists you and answers your question.

 Cheers

Daryl
 

Ashok of India Ashok from India was watching the first Test in Kanpur on the final day when Murali Kartik trapped Martin van Jaarsveld in front to win an l.b.w. verdict from the umpire.

“Just about 10 minutes ago you gave M van Jaarsveld out lbw to Murali Kartik. Do you think it was the right decision?

The ball certainly pitched on line and we could see the off stump, but the ball also turned a lot!

Does that matter at all? What I mean is do you have to take it into account whether the ball turned or not or does the decision depend on whether the ball was in line only?

Say hi from me to Sachin Tendulkar please!”

 

Thanks for your questions, Ashok

At the time of giving my decision, I certainly thought that it was the right decision. I haven’t yet seen a replay but at the end of each day, we have the third umpire and the referee to confer with about our decisions. They didn’t indicate to me that there was anything wrong with the decision so I’m assuming that it was correct.

Like you, I also observed that the ball turned but considered that it was hitting the pad in line with the stumps and that it would have hit the off stump if the pad had not been in the way.

To give a batsman out, we must consider how much the ball is turning and believe that it would have hit the stumps, had it not contacted the batsman’s body. That is our final consideration after we are sure that it has (1) pitched in line from stumps to stumps, or outside the off stump (2) not been first struck by the batsman nor has first hit a glove holding the bat and (3) has struck the batsman in line with the stumps, unless no shot is offered.

 

You may be interested to know that I.C.C. will eventually provide me with a DVD showing every appeal that I answered in that game. Also included will be an independent analysis of every decision and a series of scores and percentages calculated on my performance.

You can now understand that we have plenty to consider when that ball strikes the pad!

If you don’t mind, I won’t disturb Sachin by saying hello for you, but if he cares to log on to this site, he can still get the message!

Cheers

Daryl

 

Raj of India Raj……somewhere in India, wants to know how I feel when I give a batsman out.

“Is it difficult to handle the situation? Have you undergone any special training for your concentration on the game?”

 

Making decisions usually ensures that one team is happy and the other may be disappointed…depending upon how close the decision appears to the players.

When I give a batsman out, I try to ensure that I am making my decision after carefully considering all the aspects of the delivery. I am not interested in who the batsman may be, just whether or not the appeal is justified and whether the laws require the batsman to be dismissed.

Umpiring is all about treating everyone equally, regardless of the teams, and without considering previous experiences with the players. Of course, not every decision is shown by technology to be correct, but that has always been part of cricket. If I was as accurate as Hawk-Eye, I would need to be a robot or be able “to leap tall buildings at a single bound.”

I always remind myself that the game belongs to the players and if I can complete my role without bringing myself under notice, then I’ve probably done my job.

Regarding concentration, I have not enjoyed any special training, but only because I have not located any. I would like to if an appropriate course of study is available. The I.C.C. appointed a High Performance Manager to further develop umpires on 1st October 2004, so this may be an area of preparation where the H.P.M. will be providing guidance.

Cheers

Daryl

 

Anand of Bangalore Anand of Bangalore has noted that some umpires warm up for a game by standing behind the non striker’s stumps during net sessions.

“How much does this help an umpire at this level of cricket and do you practice this?”

 

When I first visited India in 1999, I arrived in Kanpur and spent the next three days in my hotel room, catching up on sleep and adjusting to the new environment. When the Test began, I prepared for the first delivery, not sure how high the ball would bounce or if it would seam off the pitch or how hot the day would be. I had much to think about as I had never before umpired in the sub-continent.

Last week in Kanpur, I attended net sessions for both teams, realizing the benefits of thorough preparation.  This opportunity allows me to renew my acquaintances with players whom I may not have seen for several months, and to meet any new players. I take the chance to see where bowlers deliver the ball on the popping crease and generally acclimatize myself before the big match begins. When that first delivery is bowled, I don’t feel as if I am starting a new season…I feel prepared for action.

You may ask why I have changed my preparations from 1999 to 2004. The I.C.C. created an elite panel of umpires in 2002, so I am now employed full time as an umpire. If I am to be regarded as a professional and if I want to retain my position on the panel, I must prepare myself accordingly. To give myself every chance to perform at my best, I need to be prepared physically and mentally. Batsmen and bowlers have adopted new training methods and routines, so umpires are now moving in the right direction.

Cheers

Daryl

 

Ganesh of Chennai  

 

Ganesh of Chennai has an interesting idea. He thinks the captain who loses the toss should be able to select his final team after the toss.

“That I think sort of evens out the advantage of winning the toss. The losing captain can decide on whether to play an extra spinner or pace bowler or extra batsman based on the decision of the captain winning the toss. I would like to have your valuable opinion on that.”

Well Ganesh…I must say that I like the game as it stands at the moment and I wouldn’t be in favour of your notion. When the coin goes into the air, both captains have prepared their teams, selecting the eleven players who they believe can best achieve a victory. The players all await the outcome of the toss to see whether they are in the field or having first bat. The twelfth men have been decided and all players are mentally preparing for their roles in the game. Maybe I’m too conservative but I think to juggle around with a team at this time, just wouldn’t be cricket.

Winning the toss is acknowledged as being an advantage so why would we seek to nullify this position? 

Thanks for the suggestion, though. We don’t improve ourselves unless we are challenged, so well done.

 

Cheers

Daryl

 

Colin of Adelaide asks.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael of Queensland

 

I appreciate you may not be able to divulge too much, but I'll ask anyway - is sledging the problem that the media and some cricket officials make it out to be?  Are the Aussies the worst at it?  Does it ever get personal, or is it as I would expect in the case of the Aussies, comments directed at technique to get under the skin of the batsman or to put doubt in his mind?  How much banter is returned by the batsmen?  It certainly looks like Matt Hayden is happy to engage in dialogue with the bowlers.”

 

 

 

 

What are the most overthrows you can have. A friend told me once that they were playing, and ran three runs, the ball was thrown (relay) but skewed off the side of the hand and went over the boundary rope, hence the umpire signalled 6. The total was 9 runs for that shot. I told him that this was wrong as you can only hit a six if it’s struck off the bat. He disagreed. I disagreed with him. What’s the deal?

 

As long as I’ve been involved in cricket, players have indulged in what is loosely termed

“sledging.”  It is almost exclusively the fielding side who make comments, obviously to unsettle 
the batsman. A response is rarely forthcoming and only serves to fuel the supplier.  Some batsman 
may take on the opponent verbally, but it is generally accepted that the best response comes with 
the bat. On many occasions, this annoying tactic works, and that is why is continues, probably at 
all levels of competition. 
Much sledging is humorous and is directed at opponents who are well known to each other.
The late South Australian captain, David Hookes once brought up a century against New South Wales at Adelaide Oval in a 
Sheffield Shield clash. As he raised his bat to acknowledge the praise of the home crowd, Greg Matthews reminded Hookesy 
that he himself had scored four Test centuries, playing as a spin bowler.  It was a barbed reminder to Hookes who only scored 
a single Test century in his career as a batsman. Before lowering his bat, Hookes retorted that he had not written a book about 
himself after only playing a handful of Test matches. Apparently David believed that Greg had been guilty of that claim. 
Matthews responded by saying that he had never had the opportunity to play in Kandy, where Hookes scored 143 not out in 
a team total of 4/514. The implication was that Sri Lanka in 1983 hardly rated as an opponent, so that century was of lesser 
value. Eventually my partner, Steve Davis intervened. I then realized that I could have done so myself, but I was enjoying the 
banter. 
 
Batsmen are often reminded of their previous performances against the opponent, such as how poorly they handled the shorter
delivery, or their slow running between the wickets.
There is occasionally someone who loses the plot and crosses the line with an abusive comment. An incident between 
Ramnaresh Sarwan and Glenn McGrath in a Test in Antigua apparently contained personal insults and the cricket world 
witnessed an ugly moment. Seeing two players standing face to face, obviously both agitated and insulting each other, was 
a low point for cricket.
At the international level, the I.C.C. has implemented tougher penalties for offenders and incidents have been reduced. The 
prospect of being fined or suspended has been a contributing factor to this improvement.
At lower levels in Australia, I am unsure if sledging is currently a serious issue. I can be sure that it still continues. 
It does seem to be part of the Australian game. 
 

 
Thanks for your question about boundaries. I am 
      pleased to tell you that you are on the ball
 with your interpretation 
      about the incident that you described.  Any attempt to throw the ball, 
      whether it passes the stumps or simply dribbles out of the fieldsman's hand 
      and crosses the rope nearby, will be considered as a boundary 
      overthrow...and four runs will be added to the score.  Any runs completed, 
      and the run in progress if the batsmen have crossed at the instant of the 
      fieldsman's act of throwing, will also count. A boundary six can only be 
      achieved by a hit off the bat, or a glove holding the bat, if it can carry 
      that far.
 
As for nominating the most runs possible from an overthrow, I guess there is no limit. The ball could continually be overthrown from one side of the field to the other, with the batsmen scampering back and forth. But that's not likely. Most often, it's a matter of the batsmen running for a sharp single and the four extra runs coming with the direct hit attempt that misses.
Jim Fulford of Adelaide
Adam Gilchrist - 
given not 
out by 
the umpire - walked -
 how should he 
be recorded as being 
out - "caught or retired"?
 
Adam Gilchrist certainly did ‘walk’ in the semi final victory over Sri Lanka.  He obviously knew that he had struck the ball before it was caught by keeper Kumar Sangakkara, even if the umpire didn’t think so and if the t.v. replays were inconclusive. This is an interesting question but he must surely be recorded as out ‘caught’ as this is what he is conceding to the world by his action. 

It is always refreshing and somewhat surprising to see a batsman leave his crease and head off, without looking at the umpire. I must be honest and admit that I didn’t practice this when I batted during my modest career.  The fielding side rarely had to wait very long before the next chance was given anyway!

I recall giving Jonty Rhodes out to a bat pad catch taken by the same Sri Lankan keeper in a Test in Kandy in July 2000.  I was convinced that the ball had been edged onto pad before being caught. Jonty departed without as much as a second glance but he was unusually quiet when the Proteas took the field.  I asked about the strange silence and he informed me that he hadn’t hit the ball at all.  He reminded me that when fielding, he only appealed when a batsman struck the ball. Similarly, when batting, he would walk if he edged a ball to the keeper. He suggested that in future I should hesitate for a moment to allow him to guide me!  I asked if the whole team was going to apply that approach.

Now wouldn’t that make the umpire’s job a little easier.

What a great character he has been for the past decade.  He will be sorely missed……and definitely was by South Africa in the preliminary round of the 2003 World Cup.

 

 

 

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